The Sagging Pants-Showing Panties Not One of The Best Moves For Today's Women

Updated on May 24, 2018
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Kenneth is a rural citizen of Hamilton, Ala., and has begun to observe life and certain things and people helping him to write about them.

This Introduction

although somewhat edgy in that some may discern it as pornographic, but take an old man's word for it. It is far from it. If you want to split hairs, in today's society, just what "is" pornography? Used to be a time when we knew the distinguishing between shocking and normal. I don't mean to start a debate where no one can win, but what I do mean to do is offer you this truthful look at what everyone thought was going to be "the" biggest fashion craze, but if we seen it, it was too blurry to make heads or tails out of it. In this instance, no one got hurt and lived to talk about it the next day.

If you will stop long enough to open your mind, you can trace right along with me the way that certain music styles have affected society's fashion, talking points, slang, and sometimes a taboo that sends a gasp or two when a conservative front sees it.

Remember the Roarin' 20s? Bath tub gin, speak easys and flappers? What caused this mild upheaval? The music. Ragtime and a surging wave of jazz. Kid Ory, Louis Armstrong and an army of talented people who dared to sing their songs and play their music without flinching from any of their critics' scorn. The same can be said in the 1930s--music styles led to clothing fads where fashion models from France and New York paved the way for American women to now wear shorter dresses and hairstyles and now women were lighting-up cigarettes with their husbands and life was good.

Woman wearing sports bra and boys shorts. This looks fine in public, but the saggy pants with panties showing, not so much.
Woman wearing sports bra and boys shorts. This looks fine in public, but the saggy pants with panties showing, not so much. | Source

A Shorter Report

jumping ahead to the early 1950s and then something happened. Ragtime and jazz met in some secluded alley and when the hours of pleasure were over, a new "child"was born: Rock and Roll. Look at the list. Little Richard; Jerry "The Killer" Lewis; The almost-numerous boy and girl trio's and quartets singing their Do Wap and Corner Harmonies were only the precursor to the "giants" who began a march from shore to shore. Elvis Presley, a kid from the rural. poor south, began a craze with the song, "That's Alright, Mama," and "Hound Dog."

With his sharp sideburns, longer hair (that most boys) and that trademark snarl on his upper lip, Presley was soon to be crowned "King of Rock 'N Roll." But being king can be somewhat hectic, stressful enough to suck the very life from a body and dangerous. That's the only truthful way to share the early years of Elvis.

Just when "we" were getting used to hearing "Old Shep," and "Blue Moon of Kentucky," a big wave hit New York City in 1964 carrying four charismatic young men from Liverpool, England and no amount of introduction would aptly fit The Beatles--John Lennon; Paul McCartney; George Harrison and Ringo Starr.

And in the soundtracks of an earlier king, (Elvis), so stepped the Fab Four with their openly-rebellious wardrobe, rag mop hair cuts, and witty remarks when the four would appear to the almost-endless interviews. America was changing and so were we. And for bad or good, I have to tell the truth about "this" piece which really begins in the 1970s, an underground urban movement known as "hip hop" began to develop in the Bronx, New York City. It focused on emceeing (or MCing) over "breakbeats", house parties and neighborhood block party events, held outdoors.


Hip Hop Not Only Changed

the way we talked, walked, or what music we listened to or learned how to play, but how we dressed. You shouldn't be shocked. You know that it's true. You've seen way enough evening news reports and documentaries, but the shock that I know is teasing your interest is after the 1970s came and went, something by way of a fashion fad became a fashion statement and even in 2018, the "fad" is still with us: young guys wearing the waist of their trousers down below the top of their briefs exposing their color and style of underwear--intended, here I guess, was to entice young girls to begin talking the talk and looking at the Boys With Low Trouser Tops. See how they walk.

In the flash of the now-vintage flash attachments that reporters who were "in the know" used these instruments to shoot the current music styles and fashion that came Straight Out of Compton--namely, Hip, Hop and Rap, the most-daring, openly-troubling and was just "what the younger Americans had been waiting on." Yes, indeedy. The young men who were quickly drawn into the throngs of Rap fans, no young guy would be considered cool unless . . .his pants were pulled down enough to expose his underwear label. What a blow to the Establishment. Remember raccoon coats? Do you also remember your grandparents who danced the Tango, Black Bottom, Lindy all while yelling "23 Skidoo," and flaunting their raccoon suits?


But This Piece

is far more open and transparent about "the other" affect that Hip Hop and Rap Music had on those around us--the very people who associate with us in schools, business, and in church. I am taking a bold step in telling you that it wasn't long before some fashion designer somewhere got the bright idea for young men to wear their jeans or trousers pulled down to allow their Fruit of The Loom's to be seen by one and all, but "this" affect was NOT felt by the Female Population of this here United States of America.

Somehow, someone must have overlooked the traditional trend-following-trend how in this case, we are not viewing the empowered, liberated women of today wearing their sagging pants to show-off their colorful panties that (some) view as a complete line of freedom for the American women.

And being that we are (still) living in a free country with (a limited) Freedom of Speech, why is it that news outlets, PR firms, advertising agencies, and (some) high-budget films straight out of Hollywood are not getting in on "the" Sagging Pants for Women Showing Off Their Panties? Why? These corporate hives of creativity should be primed and ready to latch onto the obvious Big Ticket Fashion Statement (of Statements) that is staring them straight into their eyes!

Did I miss something here? Or did you miss something? A better question might be: did YOU catch the Saggy Pants to Show the Panty Bandwagon and it left me? If you did, just be honest with me and I will do my best to understand.

Was it because I was born and raised in the outer realm of Rural Northwest Alabama, Hamilton, to be exact? Did you think that "this" Saggy Pants/Panties Parade would have been way too controversial for us rubes down here in the South to wrap our heads around?

I will even go further. If the empowered, liberated, and powerful women of 2018 "did" take a hard look at the Saggy Pants/Panties Thing and mostly declined the fashion move quickly and without any discussion. To me, their reasons for turning down such an in-your-face attitude as showing their briefs to everyone on the block is their business. And certainly none of mine.

To close this hub, I will be "brief" as possible. Good night.

For more information about this topic . . .

www.thepeoplehistory.com/20smusic.html

www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/tbacig/studproj/is3099/jazzcult/20sjazz/jazzculture.hmtl

madamenoire.com/.../which-is-worse-on-a-man-sagging-pants-or-ladies-underwear/

May 24, 2018_______________________________________



See how fashionable these female undergarments are UNDERNEATH, but with pants sagging, no way. No how.
See how fashionable these female undergarments are UNDERNEATH, but with pants sagging, no way. No how. | Source

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      • kenneth avery profile imageAUTHOR

        Kenneth Avery 

        6 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

        Liz -- thank you! And I answered the rest of my followers who commented on this hub, but I waited to read yours and there you had it . . .a guy who was available for favors.

        Exactly.

        Write soon. All of You.

      • kenneth avery profile imageAUTHOR

        Kenneth Avery 

        6 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

        Sweet Dana -- I've sat here and wondering, which of you will tell the reason for saggy pants.

        The truth is: when guys are sent to prison, they want to have a Male Husband or Wife, gay or heteorsexual. The sagging is not necessarily a cool move, but a sign to available guys and this came from a lot of questions (mine) and answers, (theirs, my sources).

        Write soon.

      • kenneth avery profile imageAUTHOR

        Kenneth Avery 

        6 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

        Hi, Doris James -- well put, my friend. I love it when you get right to the point. I could take a lesson from you. Write soon.

      • kenneth avery profile imageAUTHOR

        Kenneth Avery 

        6 weeks ago from Hamilton, Alabama

        My Good Friend, Mr. Happy -- first to reply to the comment that you gave me . . .thanks so much and now, my sincere advice to you:

        "PLEASE WRITE A BOOK! IT DOESN'T MATTER--FICTION, NON-FICTION OR EVEN COMEDY . . .WRITE, MY FRIEND. WRITE."

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        Mr. Happy 

        7 weeks ago from Toronto, Canada

        "The young men who were quickly drawn into the throngs of Rap fans, no young guy would be considered cool unless . . .his pants were pulled down enough to expose his underwear label." - I never engaged in low-riding my pants. As a teenager, I often had to run from cops. Can't run properly when You have to hold-up your pants with your hands LOL

        I did use to roll-up just one pant-leg, in the 90's. Haha!! You just reminded me of that. LL Cool J started that and I thought it looked pretty creative at the time: one leg up rolled-up, one leg down. Try that when You walk around your town next lol I might just do it today to show off my "old-school" styles. ; )

        Cheers!

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        Doris James-MizBejabbers 

        7 weeks ago

        I was a liberal dresser in my younger days, miniskirts, hot pants, etc. But then there seemed to be a time and place for such. I'm not sure the laws of indecency apply anymore, and we may as well all go naked.

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        Dana Tate 

        7 weeks ago from LOS ANGELES

        DzyMsLizzy, you are correct. That is exactly how this "trend" began. I'm just wondering if more men are aware of this then we realize. It is just plain "unmanly to wear your pants so low that you're exposing your behind. No real man would do such a thing.

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        Liz Elias 

        7 weeks ago from Oakley, CA

        What is truly sad about young men wearing their trousers in such a way, is how many of them (the majority, most likely), are absolutely clueless about the origin of this faux 'fashion' statement.

        Though there are plenty of people who will decry this truth, and say how it 'just ain't so...' they are wrong. My husband was employed in a position some years ago to be in exactly the right place and time to witness first hand how this sad trend began.

        It began in prisons, folks. That's right; amongst the population of men penned up for assorted crimes. The sagging pants was a symbol; even an advertisement, if you will, that the wearer was "available" for certain favors of the physical kind. But that is the origin: male-on-male acts in prison (lacking as they are in female companionship.) Without crossing the boundaries of propriety or the TOS, I dare not be more graphic.

        Now, how many of those uninformed, or misinformed young men would still dress in such a way, did they know the truth!? I suspect a good many of them would be in a hurry to pull up, hitch up, and secure with a belt!

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