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"Father, What is Sin?"

Updated on April 22, 2017
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Manatita is an esteemed author living in London, UK. He writes spiritual books, flash fiction and esoteric poetry, his favourite genre.

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“Father, what is sin?”


“Run, my son, run from anything

That may not strengthen your blossoming heart.

Let go of the vale of fear,

Darkening thy tomorrows.

Like the leaking vessel,

Throw overboard the dark load of gloom,

So that thy ship can float well.

When the eagle drops the fish from its claws,

It suddenly flies faster.

So too, you must strengthen your wings,

By letting go the dark seeds of insecurities; of doubts…

Stab! Stab at the jealousies; the malice of the heart,

For verily they are lethal poisons,

Weakening thy core, in order to delay happiness.

The mind-box relieved of its load,

Is better than the one,

Filled with snakes and monkeys”


“Do they come from Satan, Father?”

“Satan, my child? It is a symbol of desires—temptations …

Of all which would enslave you;

Pull you away from Love, to make you poor indeed.”

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What is sin to you?

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Rumi's poetry

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      manatita44 2 months ago from london

      Yes Shauna.

      Most of all. You. It is an inner obstacle or impediment. Thanks.

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      Shauna L Bowling 2 months ago from Central Florida

      To me, a sin is simply a no-no. Something you know you're not supposed to do because of the consequences the action creates or because it hurts someone or something.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Rasma,

      I thank you so much!! Have May weekend.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 3 months ago from Riga, Latvia

      Most inspirational.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      You seem a very good man, my brother. We need more like you. We have forgotten how to live the simple life. I will visit your hubs later post a long day. Thanks for your support and meaningful comments. Loving thoughts.

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      DREAM ON 3 months ago

      I am not sure what sin is ... I feel if I do things to help people and always try to be a better person inside in the process. I have never been one for material things but I could see myself reading all day and night if I had the time. Work keeps me out of trouble and my mind dreams a lot so it keeps busy with very little time to party or do foolish things. I do not have a race car so I don't have to worry about going to fast. I don't own a gun so I don't have to worry about shooting anyone or anything.The less I have the better I feel. I can't explain it. I enjoy the simple things that money can't buy. The sound of the rain and the wind. A cool breeze on a hot day. A glass of water on even hotter days. I have great respect for people who create and dream. Life is filled with so many beautiful sights one person can not see them all. I tried to give you a short version of how I think. I spend most my time reading uplifting and inspirational stories and I believe they stay with me forever. Thank you for your inspirational and amazing hubs. I will keep reading them as soon as I can. Have one beautiful night.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Thank you, Shanmarie.

      My sister is the same. Others first. We are not yet sufficiently evolved as humans. Hence the selfishness and unfairness, but the Light has already begun to seep through. Keep the Faith.

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      Shannon 3 months ago from Texas

      LOL. In many ways I am grateful for the hardships, yes. Perhaps I would have gone astray otherwise. One never knows. But if I had money now I would hire a lawyer instead of relying on CPS to cooperate willingly. In some ways, I understand why they are being so difficult and in other ways it seems so unnecessary. In the meantime, my husband's gradbaby is moving fast through her first year yet to know her family. She should have been with us already. It's disheartening. I used to want to foster parent. Now I understand some people go that route just to adopt and I wonder how fair it was to the child's family. What things they may have been passed over for that should not have been reason enough to keep a child away. It's also not fair to the child.

      And if I had money, there's a lot I would do for others. I would probably spend more on others than myself, but I have wants, too. Pipe dreams. LOL.

      I am so sorry to hear of your sister's illness. My sister-in-law also has stage 4 cancer, but she keeps on working and going as best she can. Insurance payments are outrageous. She's one I would help if I could. One of two sister in-laws I fully respect. I pity the others. But this one is usually putting others before herself even now. Your sister she's in my prayers. May she have the strength to stay positive.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Shannon,

      We share some similarities. Keep loving, but from a position of strength. Do you do silent prayer or meditate? Always feel that it is not you doing it, but a strong and eternal Presence inside you, a kind of Inner Pilot, is showing the way.

      You seem to be grateful for the setbacks. Right approach. Always do your best, though. The rest is in His loving care. People will be people. Each one becomes wrapped in his/her own issues and won't necessarily thank you. Love anyway.

      Scott Hamilton was a sharing from Nellieanna. I did not know of him before. I do not think you've done too badly. Perhaps if you had a couple of millions you would have gone astray. (chuckle)

      I was sharing with a friend only today. When we are in pain we see only our pain and that's wholesome as we have to deal with it based on the strength of our own inner growth. My sister is in Houston. I must have mentioned her before. She has stage 4 cancer, but is full of beans and so far is not defeated. Much Love.

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      Shannon 3 months ago from Texas

      Okay, now you get another long answer. In two oarts. LOL

      First, now that I read your comments, it's also funny that you were talking about Scott Hamilton. I was just last night listening to part of an interview he gave. I used to watch him skate with my grandma. It was only once or twice and I don't know why I remember that, except that I recall he had cancer and was still so positive. He was and is inspiring.

      Then again, so are some people I personally know or have known. There's a family friend. . .a woman who is like a grandmother to my husband. She's always been the welcoming sort and goes out of her way to help others in need. She's had house guests after Hurricane Katrina that over stayed their welcome. Complete strangers. Family members who screw up and she keeps generously trying to help when she can. I can't tell you how many times she helped us when we needed it even if it was just a ride to the grocery store. There was even this one time my husband wanted to help these people who startedaging in a motel we were living in. My husband had been working to pay the room and we were having problems there so we ended up having to go back to a home without lights or water. But he wanted to help this couple out. Something told me it was a bad idea. Don't get me wrong, I want to help when I can and see a need, but I just had a really bad vibe. Anyway, they went with us and then spread rumors around town about us and lies about themselves to drum up sympathy to bomb off of the generosity of others without even trying to make it better for themselves. Keep in mind, this is a small town and my husband grew up there so word got back around fairly quickly. After the final straw, I remember my husband's grandma saying we were in the wrong by kicking them out because these people could have become our beat friends. And I remember saying my best friend does not use my situation or my children foe her own benefit or in any way, she is not judgemental, she does not blue to me or about me, and she does not steal from me. In contrast, this couple dis those things. And though, I felt a sort of compassion foe them, I couldn't allow then to stay. Whereas his grandmother is just the toe to always look for the best in everyone and that is what I admire most about her. She's never bitter no matter what people do to her or what kinds of tragedies come her way. An octegenarian who keeps on giving and smiling while she does. She is just one example of the kinds of people who inspire me.

      Now....part two.....what do I do? Well, nothing. LOL. I've done various things for income...fast food work...cashiering. . .daycare worker. Had a satellite installation business with my husband for awhile until that fell apart when the company we contracted for wanted us to take in the entire state of TX and we weren't big enough to do that. This state is huge! I have been interested in psychology and education or counseling, but never finished my degree. Long story. I would be interested in ministry of some kind. I have always enjoyed writing I love music and would love to work with songwriters. Right now I interview music artists and don't get paid, but it helps them out hopefully and I enjoy it. I get to chat with some really interesting people who are inspiring in their own ways. I am also trying to take classes online to get a degree or finish the one I started. . .but so many hoops to jump and still jumping. This has gone on over a year, but I haven't given up. Maybe this year. LOL.

      But mostly since I have had kids I have not worked. At least not while they were younger. I would have paid every penny I earned to daycare. Can't get assistance from programs to help with daycare coats unless you have job and can't get a job without childcare ready lined up in moat cases. There was no one around to babysit. And there were some other extenuating circumstances that made survival day to day difficult. Sometimes we made less than a thousand a month and were lucky my husband could do some yard work or something for someone for some money that went to food stored in a cooler because we had no lights, sometimes no water.

      So if you want to know why I think like I do, I suppose I just always have since I was a kid. As a teen, I used to pray for the ability to forgive anyone for anything because I believed that was part of what it means to love unconditionally. I am a romantic, perhaps, also looking for the best in people and trying never to become jaded. I can't hold grudges but sometimes I just keep on loving when I should not. You can't buy love or demand it and you can't make someone else accept yours, but you can give it away freely just because. And I have seen the best in people so many times. As much as the worst also shows up, there are so many people who give love freely and give generously to total strangers. That general human kindness shown to me by strangers and friends alike taught me I am right to hold onto the faith in God and in love and humanity. There's a hub I did about Christmas miracles that talks about some of what I am relating here in more detail. But life experience has a lot to do with why I think like I do. Whenever I start to waiver on my convictions I can look back and be reminded of people and experiences who inspire me to hang on to seeing the beat in life and in people even when it gets rough, especially when it gets rough, and long after.

      After our home burned and we lost everything I remember telling a childhood friend it was all okay. I don't remember. The exact conversation, but I do remember her telling me I am the only person she knows who would have that kind of attitude after a fire. Bit, see, I was no stranger to lack of material things and I can't say it was all easy or that I didn't have some moments of sadness, but in the big picture, it really was all okay. And I hope I am more often inspiring than draining or disappointing to others. I realize I am only human, but I can be quite hard on myself when I feel like I have failed someone else somehow. I am learning to accept my own short comings when they arise and my own human mistakes as much as I know I need to accept when things get rough in life it's still all okay. That's the only way I could stay positive or regain it after moments of weakness, but like I said, I am harder on myself. Especially, if I feel like I should have done better by another person.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Shannon you are very dear to me, and again, while each perception is different, true, what you say is not only in line with my thinking, but of the luminaries, visionaries and Seers that I adore. Remind me of what you do. (your vocation) Shalom!

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      Shannon 3 months ago from Texas

      That's funny because I using my phone and haven't read other comments or responses before commenting. Nor have I read your other hub. But I will try. Although, now I think I will start with reading your other comments here. I wish I had more time for reading!

      P.S. Don't mind my long comments. They often are. I talk too much, I guess, especially when I am thinking and voicing thoughts in writing. Your pole at the end prompted those thoughts. ;)

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Like Nellieanna here, Shannon.

      Another long one but an exquisite and sublime comment. You explain it so well!!! I say some of what you say in my answer to Nellieanna, second half, and in talking about Love in my 400th Hub. It's called The Old man Speaks on Love and Suffering. Prose, but a very inspirational piece.

      You are so right!! Higher blessings to you. To have a sincere and striving Heart is always a victory for the Supreme!

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      Shannon 3 months ago from Texas

      Your work is often very thought-provoking, manatita. I suppose that I have always thought of sin as this kind of darkness in us all. It doesn't necessarily mean some huge immoral act has been committed because it is human nature to stumble and fall from time to time, sometimes over little things. Sometimes we do these things to ourselves and other times we may have a bad day or a bad moment and be rude to someone else, for example.

      But the beautiful thing about faith is that it allows us to eventually get back up and try again. Sometimes it takes a little while and other times it is easy to rebound. For me personally, it's as much a mindset as a feeling, particularly when I struggle emotionally with something, because I know for certain that things always improve even when it doesn't feel that way in the moment. Life isn't always easy, but it is so worthwhile and I wholeheartedly believe that there is beauty even in the pain.

      One more thing that I might add is that I don't think sin has to keep us from love or Love with a capital L, for that matter. It certainly has that potential, but we do that to ourselves. For me, when I think of unconditional love. . .it's a love that just is, no strings, no reasons, no excuses to abandon it. Like a parent loves a child or a sibling might love. Like comparing friends to family for that reason. It's deep and pure even among the impurity of it, if that makes sense to you. Humans may not always perfectly show love or share it, but it if it is real, it is always there. And sin can interfere with that, which is what I mean by the impurity of it (that, and just simple humanity of it which brings in other factors). But sin can also keep us away from love when it is offered to us. So it goes both ways, I think. Sometimes we keep ourselves away from love and sometimes it causes love to be kept from us. In the long run, though, I think we separate ourselves. Not only from divine love, but other kinds as well.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Well, my Dear,

      what exquisite coverage! You've taken this one on board. Your hands are better, yes? All you say is so meaningful! I trust it helps us all.

      If I can share with you, I met a person once who wanted to get ahead of all the other clients. Her reason was that she had been there for 14 days. I did not have the heart to tell her that some had been there 3 months; six months ... were seriously ill or dying of cancer.... plus a multitude of other ailments.

      Truth is that 80% of us, perhaps, see only our selves. We do not stop to feel that others may be in greater need. Empathy is missing and do you know that science is now saying that to an extent it is this attitude, that got us where we are in the first place. Emotions hurt the physical as well as the soul.

      So Stephen Hawkins, Scott Hamilton ... stand out as beacons of Light. They play their role well in God's creation. There is a particular Sri Chinmoy disciple that turns up every celebrations and has found an international group that sings in churches and monasteries. You can invite them to Texas. They sing for free.

      Anyway, this disciple cannot do anything by himself. He is fed, cleaned, bathed, has no use of his hands ... yet he turns up to every celebration and his faith is astonishing! So inspirational! Many with great physical capacity do not have his kind of courage.

      I'm identifying with all you say about gratitude, self-pity and so forth. So much prayer is needed by all. Let us pray ...

      About sin, I'm no saint and disobey my Guruji sometimes. I always go wrong when I do this. Other disciples do also. The point here is that I have long ago come to the conclusion that weaknesses are a part of the process, and that we need them to make us strong. We cannot grow faster than Grace and after all, God wants us eventually to be the perfect model, The Seer.

      A lot here, my dear. So nice chatting again. Let us move forward. Let us carry the banner of Light and sing the song of God's victory in Father Heaven and shed copious tears for Mother Earth. Much Love.

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 months ago from TEXAS

      Thank you, Manatital. Even more than a nice way of defining what is sin, thinking of sins as harmful to oneself and others makes it not only serving God, but it should appealing to one's common sense to avoid those things. Because God cares, He gave people sound guidance, especially when people were less informed about the real dangers in bad choices. (Not that knowing more always helps prevent making bad choices!) Commands to obey bring in faith and strengthen people's willingness to listen and follow the advice. After all, people are given free choices, so much is shown when we choose to follow God. It's a wonderful relationship. Not doing so can bring much trouble, but we mush freely choose.

      Oh, yes, Stephen Hawking's story is inspiring. His sweetheart insisted on marrying him, even when his degenerative, crippling neuron disease was diagnosed decades ago to give him two years to live, at most. Jane's faith and love helped him as it worsened, he has lived on and has become a leading physicist and author, even though pneumonia caused him to lose his voice when he already had lost most of his physical movement.

      Another inspiring story is Scott Hamilton, the famous figure skater. He has had so many bad breaks all his life, but is positive and inspiring.

      These people remind me to be so thankful for every thing. If they don't feel sorry for themselves and are thankful, then YES, I go around saying, "thank you, lord" for blessings small and large.

      Perhaps wallowing in self-pity is the greatest sin. It’s not only a show of weak faith, but is detrimental to living joyfully and being thankful for one’s life as it is. As you said, these things enslave one and “Pull you away from Love, to make you poor indeed.” Your poll describes many of its characteristics, too. It binds us; it’s a load we carry; it’s an obstacle and impediment to Love; it’s hidden in darkness; and it’s part of Life’s sojourn, (because we do have choices and if those other choices didn’t have appeal, they wouldn’t be bona-fide choices to be made!)

      This is such a real and worthwhile subject, my friend. Temptation is real and it does is all around, coming as a valid choice. Resistance is required many times, even though the ‘wages of sin is death” and being a slave to sin is being unfree. But being dead to sin is the way to be fully alive to Life and to God.

      It’s really simple if one thinks of the realistic consequences of one’s present-time choices. Toward better or toward worse? It would clarify a lot of tangles

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Yes, my Friend. A nice way of putting it. We say in Yogic thought, that continence is purity in thoughts, words and deeds as well as in the dream state. Similar to you explanation.

      Hope that you enjoyed StephenHawkins. An amazing dream of God, yes, but in Sri Chinmoy's teachings, the God-lover, whoever he is, is infinitely higher. He may be also a luminary but sometimes obscure. Still, his/her Heart is always hungry for the Lord and the inner cry; the burning intensity is immense. Loving thoughts.

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 months ago from TEXAS

      Sins are all the things we do, say and think which harm ourselves and others.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Yes, yes. Very few say this. Most seem to think we have free will. So good to hear that God is always in charge and has the ultimate power of attorney. Thank you, Debangee. Peace!

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      DEBANGEE MANDAL 3 months ago from India

      Sin is our ignorant, silly act and God is the one who holds us back.

      Excellent thoughts and concept. Well done!

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Thank you, Nellieanna

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      Nellieanna Hay 3 months ago from TEXAS

      I'm ruminating on it while watching the story of Stephen Hawking. More later.

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      I thank you for the sentiment, Bill.

      Next time I'll be the King, perhaps. Listening intently ... or perhaps I'll play the lute, ha ha.

      Your non-intentional poetic feel here is awesome!

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      Bill Holland 3 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Nice picture of our president. LOL As for the poem, you were born in the wrong era. This should be read with a lute playing in the background, around a roaring fire, the King listening, and wine flowing around the giant table. :)

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      manatita44 3 months ago from london

      Wow! I give you a 'wow', because you truly understand my poem. God bless you always, my Brother. Loving thoughts to the family this weekend.

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      Eric Dierker 3 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Really well done. Sin most definitely contains acts or failure to act that distances any soul from Love which is God. In which case your poem is the opposite which is love.